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2003 Winter Series IV Black Forest - 20K
Black Forest, CO
February 22, 2003
Please Note: For the 20K race, somebody removed the course markings that
were located near mile 7. This caused some of the faster
runners to race more than the 20K distance. One of the
runners who knows the course well (Larry Miller) corrected
the problem when he arrived at that location by making a
directional sign from some nearby logs.
We sincerely apologize for the problems. In all the years
that we've used Black Forest as a race venue, we've never
had any problems with signs being removed.
The race director has authorized that times can be adjusted
for those runners that ran more than the 20K distance.
These results do have the times adjusted. All of the
Long Series results have also been updated with the
time adjustments. There is a detailed explanation
after the women's results on how the times were adjusted.
Thanks for all of your feedback. It's always fun to
see how passionate everyone is about our sport.
If you are an award winner and will not be able to attend the dinner,
awards can be picked up Monday, and thereafter, at Performance Awards -
17 South Wahsatch - Colorado Springs.
If you signed up to receive a blanket, and were not at the last event,
please contact Pat Lockhart and make arrangements to pick it up from her home.
Weather: Mostly cloudy, temps in the mid 30s and rising slightly. There
was an occassional light wind.
Course: Rolling hills on dirt and paved roads. Elevation is about 7000 feet.
Most of the course is within the forested area of Black Forest, thus
there is some protection from any wind. The exception to this are
the latter miles of the 20K course, which is more exposed. There
are some terrific views of the Pikes Peak and the Front Range
mountains.
This was the last race for the 2003 Winter Series. We hope that you enjoyed
yourself and pushed hard with each succeeding mile. But it's not over yet.
A Winter Series would not be complete without dinner, desserts, an aution
and presentation of the awards.
So be sure and mark Saturday, March 1st, 6:00 PM on your calendar.
This is the Winter Series Awards Dinner and Crazy Auction Night.
The main meal (pasta) will be provided for a nominal price. You are
encouraged to bring your favorite dessert and share it with others.
So we'll eat, have an auction with lots of neat stuff, and present the
Winter Series awards. The location is the downtown YMCA in Colorado Springs.
From I-25, take the Bijou Exit (Exit # 142). Head east for about 3 blocks
and turn left onto Nevada Ave. After about 2 blocks, the YMCA will be
on your right.
Please RSVP for the dinner portion of the evening so that we know how much
food to order. You can RSVP to Pat Lockhart via e-mail at
PatLockhart@worldnet.att.net or phone (719) 598-2953.
If you have any questions about the results, please send an e-mail to
Dave Sorenson at dsorenso@gte.net. If there are others who are interested
in learning how to do results, don't be shy. Just give us a holler.
If you have other questions about the race, please send an e-mail to the
race director, Pat Lockhart, at patlockhart@worldnet.att.net
Thanks!!
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Male Finishers
Place Pos/Div Name Age City State Time Team
1 1/11 Andy Bupp 30 Littleton CO 1:16:49
2 2/11 Eric Peterson 31 Colo Springs CO 1:20:08
3 1/10 Todd Murray 39 Colo Springs CO 1:21:03
4 3/11 Brian Kates 31 Colo Springs CO 1:23:04
5 2/10 Rick Hessek 36 Colo Springs CO 1:23:07
6 1/8 Rich Hadley 47 Florence CO 1:23:52
7 1/11 Rick Shoulberg 41 Manitou Spgs CO 1:24:16
8 2/11 Randy Rodman 41 Centennial CO 1:24:44
9 1/4 Matt Connors 29 Colo Springs CO 1:26:19
10 4/11 Michael Schoudel 34 Colo Springs CO 1:26:55
11 1/1 Jason Nykiel 14 Colo Springs CO 1:27:19 Palmer/Cheyenne
12 3/11 Mark Koch 43 Pueblo CO 1:28:22
13 2/8 Jeff Adams 45 Colo Springs CO 1:29:27
14 1/9 Ken Baldrey 50 Denver CO 1:31:09
15 2/9 Larry Miller 52 Colo Springs CO 1:31:53
16 3/8 Dean Sandoval 47 Canon City CO 1:33:39
17 4/11 Jerry Jackson 42 Black Forest CO 1:33:44
18 2/4 Brock LaMeres 26 Colo Springs CO 1:33:57
19 3/9 Eck Zimmermann 51 Monument CO 1:33:59
20 5/11 Neal Oseland 33 Colo Springs CO 1:34:01
21 3/10 Harry Harcrow 35 Woodland Park CO 1:34:44
22 4/9 Stu Nieburg 54 Colo Springs CO 1:35:18
23 5/11 Ben Valdez 42 Pueblo West CO 1:36:06
24 4/10 Mark Walker 37 Colo Springs CO 1:36:45
25 6/11 Jonathan Fitton 33 Colo Springs CO 1:37:37
26 7/11 Joe Giordano 31 Littleton CO 1:37:50
27 8/11 Matt Sherman 30 Pueblo West CO 1:37:58 Clydesdale
28 5/10 Larry Steller 35 Highlands Ranc CO 1:39:37
29 5/9 Dave Diaz 54 Pueblo CO 1:39:56
30 3/4 Jeff Stiner 29 USAFA CO 1:41:31
31 6/10 Mark Baines 39 Fountain CO 1:41:52
32 6/9 David Reily 50 Colo Springs CO 1:42:21
33 7/10 Jeff Angus 37 Fountain CO 1:43:21
34 9/11 Paul Reichart 34 Colo Springs CO 1:44:01 Clydesdale
35 1/2 Russell Reese 24 Monument CO 1:45:40
36 4/8 Sam McClure 49 Canon City CO 1:46:43
37 10/11 Werner Vanzyl 32 Colo Springs CO 1:46:53
38 6/11 Keith Odegard 44 Colo Springs CO 1:48:33
39 8/10 Mike Mastro 39 Centennial CO 1:48:49
40 2/2 David Sexton 23 Westcliffe CO 1:48:58
41 7/11 Ken Stauffer 40 Colo Springs CO 1:49:17
42 1/4 John Moha 58 Buena Vista CO 1:49:52
43 1/3 Ross Westley 66 Arvada CO 1:51:37 Senior
44 8/11 Lee Burton 42 Divide CO 1:52:29
45 2/4 Clyde Landry 56 Colo Springs CO 1:52:51
46 1/2 Hans Zimmermann 63 Monument CO 1:52:55
47 5/8 Rodney Bolman 46 Colo Springs CO 1:55:51
48 2/2 Ed Youngberg 60 Evergreen CO 1:56:02
49 4/4 Kyle Whitney 28 Colo Springs CO 1:56:22
50 9/10 Geoffrey Jarpe 39 Colo Springs CO 1:57:47
51 9/11 Greg Leger 42 Colo Springs CO 1:58:40 Clydesdale
52 6/8 Ed Gleason 47 Colo Springs CO 1:58:58
53 11/11 Dan Grieser 32 Colo Springs CO 1:59:16
54 10/10 Andrew Dunning 39 Colo Springs CO 1:59:36
55 7/9 Don Healer 50 Colo Springs CO 2:02:14
56 2/3 Chuck Fuermann 65 Monument CO 2:03:56 Senior
57 7/8 John Crawford 48 Englewood CO 2:04:36 Clydesdale
58 8/9 Dave Vandenberg 50 Colo Springs CO 2:05:21
59 10/11 Robert Johnson 40 Colo Springs CO 2:10:02
60 1/1 Ed Mighell 72 Denver CO 2:10:10 Senior
61 11/11 Charlie Malin 43 Monument CO 2:13:51
62 3/3 Phil Foster 68 Colo Springs CO 2:19:23 Senior
63 8/8 Bob Johnson 48 Colo Springs CO 2:28:00 RMCPOA
64 3/4 Gordon Denison 59 Colo Springs CO 2:28:03
65 4/4 Brad Breland 56 Centennial CO 2:28:10
66 9/9 Jim Massa 50 Colo Springs CO 2:32:25
Female Finishers
Place Pos/Div Name Age City State Time Team
1 1/4 Sheila Geere 39 Colo Springs CO 1:28:33
2 1/3 Penny McDermott 28 Colo Springs CO 1:31:42
3 1/5 Kim Grant 43 Denver CO 1:34:27
4 1/4 Katherine FrankDvorsky 31 Pueblo CO 1:37:39
5 2/5 Susan Schenk 44 Colo Springs CO 1:37:41
6 2/3 Jennifer WheelerBuenge 29 Castle Rock CO 1:38:27
7 2/4 Tamara Rogers 36 Monument CO 1:40:32
8 2/4 Gina Basile 31 Colo Springs CO 1:46:54
9 1/4 Diane Ridgway 54 Arvada CO 1:47:15
10 1/2 Micky Simpson 46 Parker CO 1:53:14
11 3/4 Pilar George 39 Colo Springs CO 1:54:44
12 4/4 Diane Brown 39 Colo Springs CO 1:55:24
13 1/1 Joyce McKelvey 57 Black Forest CO 1:55:36
14 3/4 Leigh Singleton 34 Denver CO 1:58:55
15 2/4 Julie Marshall 54 Canon City CO 2:01:14
16 3/4 Kristine Peterson 50 Denver CO 2:01:33
17 4/4 Molly Hackman 52 Centennial CO 2:02:24
18 3/5 Annie Hamlin 40 Monument CO 2:03:48
19 4/5 Ruth Hiatt 43 Colo Springs CO 2:09:49
20 5/5 Kelly Jackson 42 Colo Springs CO 2:09:54
21 2/2 Jane Chess 49 Florence CO 2:15:31
22 3/3 Kate Simons 28 Colo Springs CO 2:16:34
23 4/4 Martine Ohland 31 Colo Springs CO 2:16:38
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For your reference, the following are the orignal times of all the finishers,
without any time adjustments applied.
All Finishers (Male/Female)
Place Bib Name Sex Age Time City State
1 872 Matt Connors M 29 1:29:34 Colo Springs CO
2 1060 Rich Hadley M 47 1:29:52 Florence CO
3 1287 Eric Peterson M 31 1:30:08 Colo Springs CO
4 684 Jeff Adams M 45 1:30:17 Colo Springs CO
5 1431 Jason Nykiel M 14 1:30:19 Colo Springs CO
6 1323 Rick Shoulberg M 41 1:30:46 Manitou Spgs CO
7 1273 Todd Murray M 39 1:31:03 Colo Springs CO
8 801 Ken Baldrey M 50 1:31:09 Denver CO
9 1227 Mark Koch M 43 1:31:22 Pueblo CO
10 979 Sheila Geere F 39 1:31:23 Colo Springs CO
11 1304 Randy Rodman M 41 1:31:29 Centennial CO
12 1261 Penny McDermott F 28 1:31:42 Colo Springs CO
13 1267 Larry Miller M 52 1:31:53 Colo Springs CO
14 1316 Michael Schoudel M 34 1:31:55 Colo Springs CO
15 1417 Andy Bupp M 30 1:32:50 Littleton CO
16 1218 Brian Kates M 31 1:33:04 Colo Springs CO
17 1416 Rick Hessek M 36 1:33:07 Colo Springs CO
18 1434 Jerry Jackson M 42 1:33:44 Black Forest CO
19 1229 Brock LaMeres M 26 1:33:57 Colo Springs CO
20 1386 Eck Zimmermann M 51 1:33:59 Monument CO
21 1427 Kim Grant F 43 1:34:27 Denver CO
22 1136 Harry Harcrow M 35 1:34:44 Woodland Park CO
23 1276 Stu Nieburg M 54 1:35:18 Colo Springs CO
24 1402 Ben Valdez M 42 1:36:06 Pueblo West CO
25 1284 Neal Oseland M 33 1:36:31 Colo Springs CO
26 1426 Dean Sandoval M 47 1:36:39 Canon City CO
27 1408 Mark Walker M 37 1:36:45 Colo Springs CO
28 937 Jonathan Fitton M 33 1:37:37 Colo Springs CO
29 957 Katherine FrankDvorsky F 31 1:37:39 Pueblo CO
30 1312 Susan Schenk F 44 1:37:41 Colo Springs CO
31 983 Joe Giordano M 31 1:37:50 Littleton CO
32 1321 Matt Sherman M 30 1:37:58 Pueblo West CO
33 1371 Jennifer WheelerBuenge F 29 1:38:27 Castle Rock CO
34 1336 Larry Steller M 35 1:39:37 Highlands Ranc CO
35 896 Dave Diaz M 54 1:39:56 Pueblo CO
36 1305 Tamara Rogers F 36 1:40:32 Monument CO
37 1338 Jeff Stiner M 29 1:41:31 USAFA CO
38 698 Mark Baines M 39 1:41:52 Fountain CO
39 1398 David Reily M 50 1:42:21 Colo Springs CO
40 689 Jeff Angus M 37 1:43:21 Fountain CO
41 1433 Paul Reichart M 34 1:44:01 Colo Springs CO
42 1296 Russell Reese M 24 1:45:40 Monument CO
43 1258 Sam McClure M 49 1:46:43 Canon City CO
44 1413 Werner Vanzyl M 32 1:46:53 Colo Springs CO
45 804 Gina Basile F 31 1:46:54 Colo Springs CO
46 1301 Diane Ridgway F 54 1:47:15 Arvada CO
47 1430 Keith Odegard M 44 1:48:33 Colo Springs CO
48 1256 Mike Mastro M 39 1:48:49 Centennial CO
49 1395 David Sexton M 23 1:48:58 Westcliffe CO
50 1334 Ken Stauffer M 40 1:49:17 Colo Springs CO
51 1424 John Moha M 58 1:49:52 Buena Vista CO
52 1405 Ross Westley M 66 1:51:37 Arvada CO
53 840 Lee Burton M 42 1:52:29 Divide CO
54 1230 Clyde Landry M 56 1:52:51 Colo Springs CO
55 1387 Hans Zimmermann M 63 1:52:55 Monument CO
56 1326 Micky Simpson F 46 1:53:14 Parker CO
57 1432 Pilar George F 39 1:54:44 Colo Springs CO
58 828 Diane Brown F 39 1:55:24 Colo Springs CO
59 1264 Joyce McKelvey F 57 1:55:36 Black Forest CO
60 818 Rodney Bolman M 46 1:55:51 Colo Springs CO
61 1406 Ed Youngberg M 60 1:56:02 Evergreen CO
62 1376 Kyle Whitney M 28 1:56:22 Colo Springs CO
63 1419 Geoffrey Jarpe M 39 1:57:47 Colo Springs CO
64 1239 Greg Leger M 42 1:58:40 Colo Springs CO
65 1415 Leigh Singleton F 34 1:58:55 Denver CO
66 985 Ed Gleason M 47 1:58:58 Colo Springs CO
67 1005 Dan Grieser M 32 1:59:16 Colo Springs CO
68 912 Andrew Dunning M 39 1:59:36 Colo Springs CO
69 1251 Julie Marshall F 54 2:01:14 Canon City CO
70 1289 Kristine Peterson F 50 2:01:33 Denver CO
71 1145 Don Healer M 50 2:02:14 Colo Springs CO
72 1042 Molly Hackman F 52 2:02:24 Centennial CO
73 1429 Annie Hamlin F 40 2:03:48 Monument CO
74 961 Chuck Fuermann M 65 2:03:56 Monument CO
75 878 John Crawford M 48 2:04:36 Englewood CO
76 1396 Dave Vandenberg M 50 2:05:21 Colo Springs CO
77 1161 Ruth Hiatt F 43 2:09:49 Colo Springs CO
78 1190 Kelly Jackson F 42 2:09:54 Colo Springs CO
79 1200 Robert Johnson M 40 2:10:02 Colo Springs CO
80 1266 Ed Mighell M 72 2:10:10 Denver CO
81 1248 Charlie Malin M 43 2:13:51 Monument CO
82 855 Jane Chess F 49 2:15:31 Florence CO
83 1325 Kate Simons F 28 2:16:34 Colo Springs CO
84 1280 Martine Ohland F 31 2:16:38 Colo Springs CO
85 956 Phil Foster M 68 2:19:23 Colo Springs CO
86 1196 Bob Johnson M 48 2:28:00 Colo Springs CO
87 894 Gordon Denison M 59 2:28:03 Colo Springs CO
88 824 Brad Breland M 56 2:28:10 Centennial CO
89 1255 Jim Massa M 50 2:32:25 Colo Springs CO
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We attempted to contact the top 30 runners in the above list to see if they
ran more than the 20K distance because of the missing sign at Bar X Road.
We did get responses from most of those runners. The following shows how
much the times were adjusted for those 30 runners. The time adjustment
was made by information supplied in e-mails and in phone converstations
with the runners. The e-mails are presented at the bottom of this writeup.
Bib # Name Orig Time Adj Time Diff Verification method
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872 Matt Conors 1:29:34 1:26:19 3:15 email
1060 Rich Hadley 1:29:52 1:23:52 6:00 Rick Shoulberg's email
1287 Eric Peterson 1:30:08 1:20:08 10:00 email
684 Jeff Adams 1:30:17 1:29:27 0:50 phone
1431 Jason Nykiel 1:30:19 1:27:19 3:00 Sheila Geere's email
1323 Rick Shoulberg 1:30:46 1:24:16 6:30 email
1273 Todd Murray 1:31:03 1:21:03 10:00 email
801 Ken Baldrey 1:31:09 1:31:09 0:00 phone
1227 Mark Koch 1:31:22 1:28:22 3:00 phone
979 Sheila Geere 1:31:23 1:28:33 3:00 email
1304 Randy Rodman 1:31:29 1:24:44 6:45 email
1261 Penny McDermott 1:31:42 1:31:42 0:00 Larry Miller's recollection
1267 Larry Miller 1:31:53 1:31:53 0:00 phone
1316 Michael Schoudel 1:31:55 1:26:55 5:00 phone
1417 Andy Bupp 1:32:50 1:16:49 16:01 phone
1218 Brian Kates 1:33:04 1:23:04 10:00 email
1416 Rick Hessek 1:33:07 1:23:07 10:00 email of others
1434 Jerry Jackson 1:33:44 1:33:44 0:00 didn't return phone call
1229 Brock LaMeres 1:33:57 1:33:57 0:00 didn't return phone call
1386 Eck Zimmermann 1:33:59 1:33:59 0:00 phone
1427 Kim Grant 1:34:27 1:34:27 0:00 didn't return phone call
1136 Harry Harcrow 1:34:44 1:34:44 0:00 phone
1276 Stu Nieburg 1:35:18 1:35:18 0:00 phone
1402 Ben Valdez 1:36:06 1:36:06 0:00 phone
1284 Neal Oseland 1:36:31 1:34:01 2:30 email
1426 Dean Sandoval 1:36:39 1:33:39 3:00 race day discussion
1408 Mark Walker 1:36:45 1:36:45 0:00 phone
937 Jonathan Fitton 1:37:37 1:37:37 0:00 phone
957 Katherine FrankDvorsky 1:37:39 1:37:39 0:00 phone
1312 Susan Schenk 1:37:41 1:37:41 0:00 phone
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After making the above adjustments, the new finishing order of all the
runners is as follows:
All Finishers (Male/Female)
Place Bib Name Sex Age Time City State
1 1417 Andy Bupp M 30 1:16:49 Littleton CO
2 1287 Eric Peterson M 31 1:20:08 Colo Springs CO
3 1273 Todd Murray M 39 1:21:03 Colo Springs CO
4 1218 Brian Kates M 31 1:23:04 Colo Springs CO
5 1416 Rick Hessek M 36 1:23:07 Colo Springs CO
6 1060 Rich Hadley M 47 1:23:52 Florence CO
7 1323 Rick Shoulberg M 41 1:24:16 Manitou Spgs CO
8 1304 Randy Rodman M 41 1:24:44 Centennial CO
9 872 Matt Connors M 29 1:26:19 Colo Springs CO
10 1316 Michael Schoudel M 34 1:26:55 Colo Springs CO
11 1431 Jason Nykiel M 14 1:27:19 Colo Springs CO
12 1227 Mark Koch M 43 1:28:22 Pueblo CO
13 979 Sheila Geere F 39 1:28:33 Colo Springs CO
14 684 Jeff Adams M 45 1:29:27 Colo Springs CO
15 801 Ken Baldrey M 50 1:31:09 Denver CO
16 1261 Penny McDermott F 28 1:31:42 Colo Springs CO
17 1267 Larry Miller M 52 1:31:53 Colo Springs CO
18 1426 Dean Sandoval M 47 1:33:39 Canon City CO
19 1434 Jerry Jackson M 42 1:33:44 Black Forest CO
20 1229 Brock LaMeres M 26 1:33:57 Colo Springs CO
21 1386 Eck Zimmermann M 51 1:33:59 Monument CO
22 1284 Neal Oseland M 33 1:34:01 Colo Springs CO
23 1427 Kim Grant F 43 1:34:27 Denver CO
24 1136 Harry Harcrow M 35 1:34:44 Woodland Park CO
25 1276 Stu Nieburg M 54 1:35:18 Colo Springs CO
26 1402 Ben Valdez M 42 1:36:06 Pueblo West CO
27 1408 Mark Walker M 37 1:36:45 Colo Springs CO
28 937 Jonathan Fitton M 33 1:37:37 Colo Springs CO
29 957 Katherine FrankDvorsky F 31 1:37:39 Pueblo CO
30 1312 Susan Schenk F 44 1:37:41 Colo Springs CO
31 983 Joe Giordano M 31 1:37:50 Littleton CO
32 1321 Matt Sherman M 30 1:37:58 Pueblo West CO
33 1371 Jennifer WheelerBuenge F 29 1:38:27 Castle Rock CO
34 1336 Larry Steller M 35 1:39:37 Highlands Ranc CO
35 896 Dave Diaz M 54 1:39:56 Pueblo CO
36 1305 Tamara Rogers F 36 1:40:32 Monument CO
37 1338 Jeff Stiner M 29 1:41:31 USAFA CO
38 698 Mark Baines M 39 1:41:52 Fountain CO
39 1398 David Reily M 50 1:42:21 Colo Springs CO
40 689 Jeff Angus M 37 1:43:21 Fountain CO
41 1433 Paul Reichart M 34 1:44:01 Colo Springs CO
42 1296 Russell Reese M 24 1:45:40 Monument CO
43 1258 Sam McClure M 49 1:46:43 Canon City CO
44 1413 Werner Vanzyl M 32 1:46:53 Colo Springs CO
45 804 Gina Basile F 31 1:46:54 Colo Springs CO
46 1301 Diane Ridgway F 54 1:47:15 Arvada CO
47 1430 Keith Odegard M 44 1:48:33 Colo Springs CO
48 1256 Mike Mastro M 39 1:48:49 Centennial CO
49 1395 David Sexton M 23 1:48:58 Westcliffe CO
50 1334 Ken Stauffer M 40 1:49:17 Colo Springs CO
51 1424 John Moha M 58 1:49:52 Buena Vista CO
52 1405 Ross Westley M 66 1:51:37 Arvada CO
53 840 Lee Burton M 42 1:52:29 Divide CO
54 1230 Clyde Landry M 56 1:52:51 Colo Springs CO
55 1387 Hans Zimmermann M 63 1:52:55 Monument CO
56 1326 Micky Simpson F 46 1:53:14 Parker CO
57 1432 Pilar George F 39 1:54:44 Colo Springs CO
58 828 Diane Brown F 39 1:55:24 Colo Springs CO
59 1264 Joyce McKelvey F 57 1:55:36 Black Forest CO
60 818 Rodney Bolman M 46 1:55:51 Colo Springs CO
61 1406 Ed Youngberg M 60 1:56:02 Evergreen CO
62 1376 Kyle Whitney M 28 1:56:22 Colo Springs CO
63 1419 Geoffrey Jarpe M 39 1:57:47 Colo Springs CO
64 1239 Greg Leger M 42 1:58:40 Colo Springs CO
65 1415 Leigh Singleton F 34 1:58:55 Denver CO
66 985 Ed Gleason M 47 1:58:58 Colo Springs CO
67 1005 Dan Grieser M 32 1:59:16 Colo Springs CO
68 912 Andrew Dunning M 39 1:59:36 Colo Springs CO
69 1251 Julie Marshall F 54 2:01:14 Canon City CO
70 1289 Kristine Peterson F 50 2:01:33 Denver CO
71 1145 Don Healer M 50 2:02:14 Colo Springs CO
72 1042 Molly Hackman F 52 2:02:24 Centennial CO
73 1429 Annie Hamlin F 40 2:03:48 Monument CO
74 961 Chuck Fuermann M 65 2:03:56 Monument CO
75 878 John Crawford M 48 2:04:36 Englewood CO
76 1396 Dave Vandenberg M 50 2:05:21 Colo Springs CO
77 1161 Ruth Hiatt F 43 2:09:49 Colo Springs CO
78 1190 Kelly Jackson F 42 2:09:54 Colo Springs CO
79 1200 Robert Johnson M 40 2:10:02 Colo Springs CO
80 1266 Ed Mighell M 72 2:10:10 Denver CO
81 1248 Charlie Malin M 43 2:13:51 Monument CO
82 855 Jane Chess F 49 2:15:31 Florence CO
83 1325 Kate Simons F 28 2:16:34 Colo Springs CO
84 1280 Martine Ohland F 31 2:16:38 Colo Springs CO
85 956 Phil Foster M 68 2:19:23 Colo Springs CO
86 1196 Bob Johnson M 48 2:28:00 Colo Springs CO
87 894 Gordon Denison M 59 2:28:03 Colo Springs CO
88 824 Brad Breland M 56 2:28:10 Centennial CO
89 1255 Jim Massa M 50 2:32:25 Colo Springs CO
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And finally, here are the e-mails that I received about this. These are
shown so you have an idea of how the time adjustments were derived.
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Dave,
I'm Randy Rodman. I lost 6:30 to 7:00 minutes on my detour.
Not to mention the wind taken out of my sails from this.
I was on pace to run a 1:24.
I was ahead of Rick Shoulberg at the time by about 75 feet.
We probably finished close to each other so I would not have over
taken him for 1st.
I'd appreciate if you'd check with Mark Koch. He was no where near
us at that point and ended up 7 seconds ahead of me.
I would have over taken that spot.
That was the 40-44 mens division.
Andy Bupp was he the lead at the time. Probably by over 2:00.
He's estimating going 3 miles out of the way. He was running a consistent
6:00 pace yesterday. 18 minutes off.
I'm not blaming anyone for this. It was unfortunate. But I am very upset.
Randy Rodman
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I love my blanket!
Randy (Rodman)
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Dave,
You guys are really going out of your way for us by adjusting the times. My
time at the 6 mile mark was 41:06. My time at the 8 mile mark was 58:12, so
I am thinking that I lost about 3 minutes because I think I was actually
averaging close to 7 mins/mile. That would have put me at 8 miles closer to
55:10 or so than 58:12.
I was with a couple of guys, one was the young guy, Jason Nykiel, and I
think either Rich Hadley or Rick Shoulberg. If they didn't think it was
three minutes, then go with whatever they send in.
Thanks again,
Sheila Geere
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Dave-
I knew something was wrong when the 7th mile never came.
I went straight instead of taking left, and continued straight
until I reached a 4-way intersection. At that point I knew I
was off course and turned around, as did Rick Hessek, who was
running alongside me at the time. We both estimate that we ran
an additional 3/4 mile to that stop sign, or 1 1/2 miles roundtrip.
At the pace we were going (around 6:40), that would be an additional
10 minutes. I was running in 2nd place at the time, and finished
well back in around 15th.
I applaud you, Pat, and all of the volunteers who put on a high
quality event each year, giving up your Saturday in the process
without pay. I understand that the event is different things to
different people, but for me personally the final result is not
nearly as important as the effort that I put into each race, the
sportsmanship and comraderie of the other partcipants. All of
those objectives were met once again on Saturday, and I thoroughly
enjoyed the experience despite the disappointment of not knowing
what the outcome would have been had the course signs not been
removed. Keep up the great work and thanks for all that you do.
Regards,
Brian Kates
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Dave,
I think I ran about 2 1/2 minutes or more than I should have. It doesn't
really affect me and my entry was comped so I'm not concerned about it. No
need to spend the time going in and changing it for me.
I just thought if you are trying to piece together approximate times for
others that this might help you. See you Saturday night!!
Neal (Oseland)
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Hi Dave,
I was one of the people who missed the left hand turn at Bar X Rd.
I was running in 5th place at the time, right behind Eric Peterson.
I think we added about 1 to 1 1/2 miles total for our mistake. We
ran almost all the way down to the next 4 way intersection. Brian Kates
and Rick Hessek were just in front of us and the 4 of us all turned
around together to run back to the turn and continue on.
Don't know if my mistake actually made any difference in my overall
standing or not.
Todd Murray
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Hi Dave,
Wow I don't envy your task in this. My preference is to just not
adjust any times as we the runners are suppose to know the course. As for
how much extra I ran, I am not sure. Brian Kates and Rick Hesseck were
about 15 seconds ahead of Todd Murray and myself. We were running 2nd-5th
place in the race at the time. I am not sure who was in the lead as he
was well ahead of us. I know we didn't run more than 1.5 miles
extra(total round trip back to getting on course). But other than that I
am not sure. The four of us conferred for a second so maybe the 4 of us
should get the same bonus time based on everyones opinion?
Eric Peteron
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Dear Pikes Peak Road Runners Race Directors / Executives,
I appreciate your effort to adjust the results of us 20K race
participants who were unfairly led off course. I think this is
a very sincere and righteous offer to try and compensate us who
were cheated out of a fair race course, but I don't think that
there is any accurate and thus fair way to determine the exact
amount of time to compensate us. I think that the race should be
nullified and withdrawn from the long series. I think that if a
racer finished the fourth race then their first three long series
times should stand as the long series result.
I know that you PPRR Directors and Executives think that some
redneck hillbilly sabotaged the course, which I guess could be
true, but I really doubt that's what happened. Criminals always
have a motive and behavior, and I don't see what a redneck's motive
for this crime would be and certainly don't think the behavior is
consistent with what such a redneck would do. If a redneck that
hates runners did this then he would probably have knocked over the
sign and left it sprawled all over the road as a monument to his
hatred of runners. I can't see some redneck getting out of his pickup
and carefully disassembling the different parts of the marker post
and then carefully hiding all presence of the turn marker so that
none of the lead runners would see it. This behavior seems more
consistent with someone associated with the running race who wants
to gain an unfair advantage or make himself (or his friend or spouse)
look better in the long or even short results. I can think of all
sorts of reasons why someone participating in the long or even the
short series would want to throw off the times of the leaders in the
20K race, and these reasons would be very compelling to someone
(or the friend or spouse of someone) who actually has something to
gain in the long race results or comparative race results of the
short to long race or series.
If you do insist on adjusting the times of the 20K and then using
them to calculate the overall Long Series results, then I'll try to
give you my best perception of what happened, but please don't adjust
my time unless you make an effort to contact and adjust the times of
the competitors surrounding me. When we were running east on Pine Cone
road I recollect that the order was close to as follows:
1st The Bould Running Company tank top runner was out of sight
2nd Brian Kates (about 130 meters ahead of me)
3rd Rick Hessek ( about 100 meters ahead of me)
4th Eric Peterson (about 70 meters ahead of me)
5th Guy with purple, pink flowered spandex tights (about 40 meters ahead of me)
6th Randy Rodman (about 20 meters ahead of me)
7th Rick Shoulberg (me)
8th Rich Hadley (probably about 100 meters behind me)
Maybe I got the order wrong, but I don't think I missed someone,
but I guess it's possible. Please ask these guys to confirm the
exact scenario.
I was running in 7th with the strung out pack and I thought I heard
someone screaming way behind me, but I kept on following the pack,
since I didn't know what was going on and it was hard to hear. I ran
down the grade of Pine Cone Road and was about 250 meters from the
Vollmer Road stop sign and then I could hear better someone yelling
and screaming far behind me, so I stopped and stuttered but then
resumed running, so now Randy was then about 50 meters ahead of me.
Then I was about 200 meters from the stop sign ,and it looked like
Brian was almost to the stop sign, and Randy just turned around abrubtly,
so I figured we were going the wrong way, so I turned around and went
towards the screaming Rich Hadley. Hadley waited for me, but we didn't
wait for the 2nd - 6th guys, since they seemed like they had figured
out that we all needed to go back. Thus I got an unfair 50 to 260 meter
total out-and-back advantage over 2nd - 6th in the pack, but I in turn
lost my significant advantage that I had worked hard to build over Hadley.
On the way back to the missed turn at Bar X I do not remember seeing any
other runners that also missed the turn, but it is possible that there
was some others. If there was some other runners they should not be
compensated as much as us, and likewise the guys ahead of me should
get a little more compensation than me.
I looked at an acurate map on the internet, and it looks like from Bar X
to Vollmer Road is about just over 1000 meters. Thus the leaders of our
pack would have run and extra total out-and-back 2000 meters (1 1/4 miles)
while I estimate that I ran at least and extra 1600 meters (1 mile), and
Hadley ran less than me. Hadley did stop and wait for me to come back to
him, and he went out of his way to retrieve us even though he already knew
about the missed turn, so please commend him.
Thank you.
Rick Shoulberg
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Hey Dave
--Just got you message on the phone.. Yes I did go a little out of the way
not much though probably 3 to 3:30 minutes. It looked like I was in 7th or
8th at the time.. Hope that helps and I would also like to thank you for
doing the results, it was a great series my first time.
Thanks again Matt Connors
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